Episode 6 of Anonymous Us is up!
Also, we’ve just got a Twitter page @AnonymousUsProj.
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From an egg donor who needed money, went on Craigs List, and chose between prostitution or selling her eggs:
I could sell my reproductive parts either to old men, or old women.
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From a donor conceived young woman who learned the truth when she was twelve:
I have often looked at my son, who is now seven, and wondered if he might look like his biological grandfather at all.
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From a surrogate now 13 weeks pregnant with twins:
I hope nothing but well wishes to them both, and their beautiful twins. I know after the twins are born the IP’s (intended parents) will be sooooooo busy. I know that we may never talk again, and I have come to terms with that. It’s hard in some ways cause I’m a very emotional person, and I care for the IP’s, but I knew when I started this, that there was a chance that we may never talk again.
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This caught my attention. It was linked to at Huffington Post and originally published at Iowa Farmer Today. On my mom’s side I come from a bunch of farmers. Glad this columnist is on it.
“Seven likely causes for divorce on the farm“
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My new piece just went up at Huffington Post:
…Meet one of today’s newer and more surprising intentional families. These prospective parents look around, see a bunch of divorced parents trying to “co-parent” their kids in separate homes, and decide, hey, why not skip falling in love, getting married, and getting divorced and just set up a split life for our child before the child is even conceived? read more
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Went online today:Â Donor Conceived and Out of the Closet–The children of anonymous sperm donors are growing up, speaking out, and demanding rights in a forum fraught with controversy
I am going to ask them to correct how they summarize my SSM view — the fact that SSM does not “lead to natural procreation” has never come out of my mouth as a concern — but otherwise on the whole this is a really, really excellent moment.
Go AnonymousUs.org!
UPDATE: The reporter Alessandra Rafferty made the correction. Highly professional. It’s a great story and it’s currently featured, full screen, at the top of Newsweek.com right now. Kudos to her.
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In a previous post, Elizabeth Marquardt mentions a lovely quote that seems to âevoke the assumptions of an earlier eraâ by describing the transition from girlhood to womanhood as the âsimple somersault by which a young girl becomes a wife and motherâŠâ
The contrast between this and the description of âpre-adulthoodâ in Kay Hymowitzâs piece in the Wall Street Journal today is stark. To me, the first image conjures something like an icon of the Madonnaâa woman with the flush of youth and babe in armsâwhile the second makes me think of city grime, long workdays, late nights out, and the confusion that so many of us twentysomethings struggle to tame as we agonize over the future. Most weeks I have at least one friend who is deciding whether or not to move to a different city to chase a better position, whether or not to propose to or break up with his long-term girlfriend, whether or not to move to Brooklyn or find a place in Harlem or Washington Heights when the lease is up, whether or not to move closer to family or stay in New York, whether or not to keep waiting tables or to look harder for something else. With this constant flurry of motion, Hymowitz comments that âitâs no wonder that so many young Americans suffer through a âquarter-life crisis.ââ
Yet while for a segment of young adults pre-adulthood is the norm, Hymowitz notes that âpre-adulthood is a class-based social phenomenon, reserved for the relatively well-to-do.â In those well-to-do circles, the script of college then career often means that “‘what you doâ is almost synonymous with âwho you are,â and starting a family is seldom part of the picture.âÂ
On the other hand, for those in small town Middle America who do not usually partake of the pre-adulthood phenomenon (at least not to the same degree) the case is often reversed: family defines you, and what you do matters only in so far as it helps you to support that family. Â
This doesnât mean that these Middle Americans donât have plans to finish college or start careers. They just have plans to do so during or after they have children. Erin, a 24 year old who finished college while she was a single mother and is now married to the father of her second child, pities those who wait to start families:
âAnd then [after theyâve established careers] theyâre probably going to be really close to not being able to [have children] and then thatâs gonna really suck in their lives when it comes around. Because you know thatâs gonna be really hurtful to them. You know, âWhy didnât I do that?â I think in my head thatâs what I think that they would be doing, you know, regretting that decision that they didnât have children.â
Ally, a 29 year old who currently works as a nurseâs aid and whose youngest child is just about ready to go to school, is getting ready to go back to school herself. Ally recently married her fiancĂ© of 10 years and father of her three children, and has this to say about her educational goals:
âI was going to go to college, but I decided Iâd start a family first. Because I figured, you know, if youâre young and you have a family first, then you can get that out of the way and then you can have like [makes a âsheeshâ sound] 50, 60 years to work!â
Ally is smart, creative, multi-talented, and competent:Â it was not for want of potential that she delayed her professional life in favor of family (although it was in part for lack of funds). She just sincerely wanted to make having a family her first priority.
I know that to many Allyâs logic will seem entirely foreign, impractical, and perhaps even ludicrous. And of course we could have a lengthy discussion about the benefits of finishing school before having children (for one itâs just a lot easier, although I know women who have done it the other way around with a great deal of gracefulnessâand I have much respect for them). We could also talk about the need to find ways to help Middle Americans achieve their educational goals without accruing loads of debt, which will just make the family lives they prize all-the-more difficult.
Yet setting that discussion aside for another time, I canât help but compare the âsimple somersault by which a young girl becomes a wife and motherâ that I saw in the lives of Erin and Ally, with the chaotic identity-seeking of a pre-adulthood defined mostly by career-building, which is often a lonely ordeal. For Erin, Ally, and many others in Middle America, having children is the most important, most natural, and most fulfilling thing to do in their twenties. And while in reality sometimes this âsimple somersaultâ becomes a tragedy more complex than the self-saturated quandaries of pre-adulthood, Iâm not sure that wanting to establish a family early (even if it does push the limits of the prevailing orthodoxy) is such a bad thing.
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Eric Holder, the Attorney General of the US, yesterday released a letter declining to defend the constitutionality of DOMA, the Defense of Marriage Act, in court.
Well, sort of.
DOMA has two parts: One part, which presumably the Obama administration will continue defending, says states don’t have to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states. The other part — called “Section 3″ — says the Federal government won’t recognize same-sex marriages performed in states where same-sex marriage is legal. (This has practical effects in a bunch of areas: social security benefits, federal taxes, immigration, etc…)
Holder’s letter says the Obama administration will no longer defend the constitutionality of Section 3 of DOMA in court, although they will continue enforcing the law.
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I wanted to share with our readers obituaries at the Austin American-Statesman and the University of Texas at Austin website.
Also, at my earlier post on the loss of Norval Glenn others are adding their thoughts in the comments section.
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In “What is Marriage?,” Girgis, George & Anderson (for convenience, I will refer to them as “George,” after their most senior member) argue that there is something called “true marriage” that exists apart from culture. But the truth is, huge numbers — probably the majority — of human cultures would not have agreed with George’s definition of “true marriage.” Many or most cultures have recognized polygyny or polyandry, for example. More recently, an increasing number of cultures recognize same-sex marriage. It’s extremely counter-intuitive to say that there is an objective, universally true definition of marriage which many or most human cultures have gotten wrong.
George writes:
Marriageâs independent reality is only confirmed by the fact that the known cultures of every time and place have seen fit to regulate the relationships of actual or wouldâbe parents to each other and to any children that they might have.
It seems dubious to claim “the known cultures of every time and place” to argue that marriage has an “independent reality,” while simultaneously defining “real marriage” in a way that contradicts how marriage was defined in many or most of those known cultures.
In my view, marriage is the institution by which people who aren’t each other’s immediate kin, become each other’s immediate kin. (This has the useful secondary effect of making two families, who may not have had previous connections, into kin.) Unlike George’s definition, my definition is accurate for the overwhelming majority of known human cultures, including — as far as I know — all present-day human cultures.
But although there is a core definition of marriage, shared by virtually all human cultures, there are also details which vary between cultures. So if I were defining marriage in the present-day US, I’d say it’s the institution by which two unmarried, consenting adults who are not close kin, become legally and socially recognized as each other’s immediate kin.
George argues that “revisionists” are unable to explain why incestuous marriages shouldn’t be legally recognized:
Many revisionists point out that there are important differences between these cases and same sex unions. Incest, for example, can produce children with health problems and may involve child abuse. But then, assuming for the moment that the stateâs interest in avoiding such bad outcomes trumps what revisionists tend to describe as a fundamental right, why not allow incestuous marriages between adult infertile or same sex couples?
In my case, I’d first say that marriage is a kin-making institution, which by definition transforms two unrelated (or at least not closely related) people into close kin. It makes no more sense for marriage to turn close kin into close kin than it does for an alchemist to transform gold into gold. It’s already gold.
Second, I’d point out that limiting incestuous marriage to adults would not solve the problem of child abuse, and could conceivably make it worse. Legal recognition of incestuous marriage could give sexually abusive fathers (or mothers — but in most cases, sexually abusive parents are fathers) a strong incentive to sexually abuse their daughters, in hopes of crushing her will before she comes of age, so she’ll agree to marriage.
Finally, I’d argue that child health and child abuse are not the only harms of incest. Importantly, legalizing incestuous marriage between the infertile would transform currently existing families, by introducing the possibility of marriage into relationships that have never had that possibility. It fundamentally changes the relationship between father and son, or between sister and brother, if we add the possibility of marital union to those relationships.
A question often asked of SSM opponents — one they’ve never persuasively answered — is “how would your family be harmed if two women you don’t even know get married?” A traditional nuclear family in Massachusetts was no different after the Goodridge decision than before. But legalizing incestuous marriage would introduce new, intrusive and unwelcome possibilities into existing families, by making siblings, and even parents and children, evaluate each other not only as family members but also as potential mates and spouses.
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Since there’s no evidence that same-sex marriage is harmful, SSM opponents commonly resort to a second-degree harm argument: We must not recognize SSM, because denying legal recognition to SSM is crucial for preventing incestuous marriage. (Or bestiality, or men marrying androids, and so on and so forth.) Although it’s unclear if George makes this precise argument, it’s a common argument among SSM opponents, and therefore worth addressing.
The implication of this argument is that legal recognition of SSM would necessarily (or at least plausibly) lead to the legal recognition of incestuous marriage.
But that’s not how change actually happens. Incestuous marriage will never be legally recognized in the US until millions of Americans become persuaded that it should be legally recognized. And there is no sign of that happening, because of SSM or for any other reason.
SSM opponents (particularly those less sophisticated than George) might respond that if the courts can recognize a right to SSM, then they could also force incestuous marriage down American’s collective throats, regardless of how disgusted Americans are by the prospect. But again, this argument shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how change happens. Judges do not create social change out of thin air; it is only in an atmosphere of commonplace (although not universal) acceptance of homosexuality that a court ruling had any practical power to bring about recognition of SSM.
In other words, legal incestuous marriage cannot happen until millions of Americans are persuaded to support it. The incestuous marriage objection to SSM therefore only makes sense if we assume that there are no persuasive arguments against incestuous marriage apart from banning SSM. But as we’ve already seen, that’s not the case.
But what if, as SSM opponents may believe, there are no persuasive arguments against incestuous marriage? Well, if there are no arguments against it, then why do we need to oppose incestuous marriage at all? More importantly, if there’s not a single persuasive argument against incestuous marriage, why believe that banning SSM will prevent incestuous marriage from ultimately being recognized?
Finally, consider the crucial issue of fairness. The argument that we must ban equal marriage for same-sex couples in order to prevent incestuous marriage treats LGBT people and their families instrumentally; it dehumanizes them by treating their lives and needs as if they are of no consequence, mere tools to be used (and if necessary destroyed) to prevent a bad policy outcome.
How have same-sex coupled earned being punished for the sins of incestuous couples? Not in any way. What justifies singling out same-sex couples for this treatment? Nothing I’ve seen. Singling out same-sex couples for second class status in this way is unjust.
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Related to this post, I’d encourage everyone to read the discussion of how George’s use of the word “discrimination” is slippery on the blog Waking Up Now.
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In a novel I read recently and already cited from below, there was another phrase that keeps coming back to me. The writer refers, almost in passing, to the “simple somersault by which a young girl becomes a wife and mother…”
I can’t get it out of my head, I think because although the novel was written fairly recently, in France, it seems to evoke the assumptions of an earlier era. Yes, for most, to become a mother is pretty simple (and perhaps, for some, even involves some gymnastics). But for so many young people the institutional framework that propelled them into marriage has weakened considerably or all but disappeared. For these young women, motherhood may well happen sooner or later, but marriage is elusive.
It is hard, now, to wake up and find yourself married. In some ways that is probably a good thing. But it also means that fewer and fewer people are doing it. They are left, circling in midair, contending with the emotional landscape of human relationships in a setting drained of the structures and meanings that help the rest of us muddle through and even, at times, achieve happiness.
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This letter is titled ‘Child of A Stranger’ by Kathleen LaBounty. I pulled it from The Donor Conception Network. Please read the whole thing because it’s brilliant. But this quote especially troubles me- because it is yet another example of what happens when children become consumer items.
I also discovered that my mother gave birth to another donor conceived baby just 11 months before my arrival, but the child was placed up for adoption after being born with Down syndrome.
I remember having a conversation about commercial conception with my mother once- she said something like Well I’m just glad you turned out normal and healthy. I don’t know WHAT I would have done if you had been born special needs.
It is very important that “intended parents” are screened for emotional intelligence and maturity. Just like adoption.
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[NOTE from Editor: This post is somewhat explicit.]
Girgis, Anderson and George’s rebuttal to my earlier post (for convenience, I’ll call them “George,” after the most senior member of their team) was helpful to me, and clarified some of their arguments, for which I’m thankful. Nonetheless, it is no more persuasive than their original article.
I will attempt to explain my objection to their position again, drawing from from my now-improved understanding of their argument.
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In this weekâs âEmbryo Mix-up Updateâ section of âPeopleâ magazine, we meet the Savages: Â a couple with three children who wanted more, and who
âafter a fertility clinic error carried another coupleâs baby for themâand [they] still feel his loss.â
When they learned that Ms. Savage was pregnant with another coupleâs embryo, the doctor advised them to terminate. They decided to âendure the pregnancyâ and give the child to the biological parents after the birth.
Since they were carrying someone elseâs child they decided to hire a surrogate to carry their embryo. It all starts to sound a bit like a sad and twisted episode of âThreeâs Company.â I keep waiting for Don Knotts to come to the door, hear the crazy mix-up news, and stare bug-eyed at the two pregnant bellies.
The Savagesâ book ends with a letter to the child basically explaining that ultimately they are glad that they decided to birth him. What will this child think as he or she reads this story?
Oddly enough both parents have written memoirs and though I love a clever title, even ones that verge on pun, even I groaned to learn their titles: yes, you probably guessed it… their titles are: Misconception and Inconceivable.
Really?Â
I wonder who will be featured in next weekâs âEmbryo Mix-up Update?â I wonder if they could mash-up the section with the best and worst dressed⊠âJane is carrying someone elseâs child but looks great in a lavender serapeâŠâ
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From Australia:
THIS week as the debate over homosexual marriage hots up, a very important Senate committee report on donor conception practices was tabled which should have far-reaching effects on the issue.
However, “should have” is not the same as “would have”. Aside from a couple of brief reports in the Fairfax press, the news media have been strangely silent on this report with its criticisms of the in-vitro fertilisation industry and the whole murky business of donor conception…
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The following two articles come from Bill Cordray, who is a donor conceived adult in the U.S. who has spoken and written about donor insemination issues for years. He posted this letter some months back to the PCVAI (people conceived via artificial insemination) yahoo group, which can be found here. The first article is from The Medical World, and the second article is an excerpt from a paper that Bill wrote for a class in Reproductive Issues in the Philosophy Department at the University of Utah. I am posting these two articles here, with Billâs permission.
I thought it was important to post this letter in its entirety.
The Medical World, April 1909 pp. 163-164: Letter to the Editor
Artificial Impregnation
Editor Medical World:
It has been twenty-five years since Professor Pancoast performed the first artificial impregnation of a woman, in the Sansom Street hospital of Jefferson Medical College, in Philadelphia. At that time the procedure was so novel, so peculiar in its human ethics, that the six young men of the senior class who witnest [witnessed?] the operation were pledged to absolute secrecy. The circumstances of the case were about as follows: Read More
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