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		<title>Comment on Till Debt Do Us Part by Peter Hoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I think college costs are out of line with what too many students get out of it. 

One of my kids is a senior in high school. He&#039;s not interested in what you might call a traditional job. I suppose he could go to college and study what he wants to learn, but he&#039;ll do better working in the field and gaining his experience that way. Frankly, after 4 years of college, he&#039;d be scrambling for the same kind of low=paying, entry-level gigs that he can probably get straight out of high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I think college costs are out of line with what too many students get out of it. </p>
<p>One of my kids is a senior in high school. He&#8217;s not interested in what you might call a traditional job. I suppose he could go to college and study what he wants to learn, but he&#8217;ll do better working in the field and gaining his experience that way. Frankly, after 4 years of college, he&#8217;d be scrambling for the same kind of low=paying, entry-level gigs that he can probably get straight out of high school.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Till Debt Do Us Part by Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter - don&#039;t know if you are being sarcastic or not, but I do know one 19 year old who is &quot;homeschooling&quot; for college, and he&#039;s about halfway through, only a year into it.  And it&#039;s MUCH cheaper than going to a brick and mortar building.  If it&#039;s accredited, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter &#8211; don&#8217;t know if you are being sarcastic or not, but I do know one 19 year old who is &#8220;homeschooling&#8221; for college, and he&#8217;s about halfway through, only a year into it.  And it&#8217;s MUCH cheaper than going to a brick and mortar building.  If it&#8217;s accredited, why not?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Till Debt Do Us Part by Alana S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alana S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oi.

Higher education in the US can be such a trap.
Suffering every day for all those unnecessary classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi.</p>
<p>Higher education in the US can be such a trap.<br />
Suffering every day for all those unnecessary classes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Divorce That Has No Name by Shirley Cress Dudley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley Cress Dudley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree- it&#039;s more common today, especially with blended and step families. Some may not get married due to child support, custody, alimony or even college tuition issues. When the couple breaks up, the pain is just the same as a divorce, and both parents and children suffer from the change.

Shirley Cress Dudley, MA LPC NCC
Director of The Blended and Step Family Resource Center
http://www.BlendedFamilyAdvice.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree- it&#8217;s more common today, especially with blended and step families. Some may not get married due to child support, custody, alimony or even college tuition issues. When the couple breaks up, the pain is just the same as a divorce, and both parents and children suffer from the change.</p>
<p>Shirley Cress Dudley, MA LPC NCC<br />
Director of The Blended and Step Family Resource Center<br />
<a href="http://www.BlendedFamilyAdvice.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.BlendedFamilyAdvice.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Till Debt Do Us Part by Peter Hoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I believe in home-schooling for college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I believe in home-schooling for college.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Divorce That Has No Name by Peter Hoh</title>
		<link>http://familyscholars.org/2010/09/05/the-divorce-that-has-no-name/comment-page-1/#comment-7924</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In theory child-related right and obligations are now severed from marriage.&lt;/i&gt;

I think it&#039;s more than &quot;in theory.&quot; I&#039;m not aware that child-related rights and obligations are any different for the formerly married and the never married, outside of paternity disputes. 

&lt;i&gt;Even a husband btw under the classic presumption of paternity doctrine could deny paternity if he could prove that the child is not his.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0209/p01s01-usju.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This case from Florida&lt;/a&gt; contradicts that statement. Perhaps Florida law has since been changed, but the Florida Supreme Court decided unanimously that missing the one year post-divorce deadline mattered more than the DNA evidence. 

&lt;i&gt;An unmarried woman has the obligation to prove this man is the father of her child.&lt;/i&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metroactive.com/metro/07.19.06/paternity-0629.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This article&lt;/a&gt; demonstrates that, in practice, it&#039;s not as simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In theory child-related right and obligations are now severed from marriage.</i></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more than &#8220;in theory.&#8221; I&#8217;m not aware that child-related rights and obligations are any different for the formerly married and the never married, outside of paternity disputes. </p>
<p><i>Even a husband btw under the classic presumption of paternity doctrine could deny paternity if he could prove that the child is not his.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0209/p01s01-usju.html" rel="nofollow">This case from Florida</a> contradicts that statement. Perhaps Florida law has since been changed, but the Florida Supreme Court decided unanimously that missing the one year post-divorce deadline mattered more than the DNA evidence. </p>
<p><i>An unmarried woman has the obligation to prove this man is the father of her child.</i> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.metroactive.com/metro/07.19.06/paternity-0629.html" rel="nofollow">This article</a> demonstrates that, in practice, it&#8217;s not as simple as that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Divorce That Has No Name by Maggie Gallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In theory, the answer is yes. the law treats cohabiting and married couples quite differently: marriage creates property claims on one another&#039;s assets that living together does not.

For most cohabiting couples, this isn&#039;t very relevant however, as young adults who have lived together for a few years (say five or less) typically do not have enough assets to bother a lawyer about.

Also cohabiting couples do not tend to create wealth the way married couples do.

In theory child-related right and obligations are now severed from marriage.  Even a husband btw under the classic presumption of paternity doctrine could deny paternity if he could prove that the child is not his.

The difference is only in the legal presumption.  An unmarried woman has the obligation to prove this man is the father of her child.  A married man would have the obligation to prove he is not.

This mattered a great deal more in the days before DNA testing. maggie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory, the answer is yes. the law treats cohabiting and married couples quite differently: marriage creates property claims on one another&#8217;s assets that living together does not.</p>
<p>For most cohabiting couples, this isn&#8217;t very relevant however, as young adults who have lived together for a few years (say five or less) typically do not have enough assets to bother a lawyer about.</p>
<p>Also cohabiting couples do not tend to create wealth the way married couples do.</p>
<p>In theory child-related right and obligations are now severed from marriage.  Even a husband btw under the classic presumption of paternity doctrine could deny paternity if he could prove that the child is not his.</p>
<p>The difference is only in the legal presumption.  An unmarried woman has the obligation to prove this man is the father of her child.  A married man would have the obligation to prove he is not.</p>
<p>This mattered a great deal more in the days before DNA testing. maggie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pet &#8220;Adoption&#8221; by Peter Hoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a time when people didn&#039;t adopt pets. Back in the 60s and 70s, pet stores had puppies and kittens for sale. One didn&#039;t ask where the puppies came from, or what happened if they weren&#039;t purchased. 

Getting your dog at the humane society? That was a bit of a novelty. Cousins of mine got their dog this way in the 70s, but I can&#039;t remember if they used the language of adoption. 

At some point, we started hearing about the evils of puppy mills, and pet stores stopped carrying puppies and kittens. Not sure if there was causation or not. And the local morning shows on TV started bringing out the &quot;pet of the week&quot; who needed a loving home. 
 
In the past 10 years, I think everyone I know who got a dog or a cat got their pet through a rescue organization. I know several places where I could &quot;adopt&quot; a dog or cat. I wouldn&#039;t know where to go to buy one. 

I thought I remembered that Pet Rocks came with adoption papers, but I probably mistaken. The wikipedia article makes no mention of adoption papers. (For those of you who are oh so young, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pet rocks&lt;/a&gt; were a short-lived fad back in 1975. Yes, the 1970s were a strange time.)

Perhaps I am mixing it up with Cabbage Patch Kids (1978 onward). I&#039;m pretty sure that they came with adoption papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a time when people didn&#8217;t adopt pets. Back in the 60s and 70s, pet stores had puppies and kittens for sale. One didn&#8217;t ask where the puppies came from, or what happened if they weren&#8217;t purchased. </p>
<p>Getting your dog at the humane society? That was a bit of a novelty. Cousins of mine got their dog this way in the 70s, but I can&#8217;t remember if they used the language of adoption. </p>
<p>At some point, we started hearing about the evils of puppy mills, and pet stores stopped carrying puppies and kittens. Not sure if there was causation or not. And the local morning shows on TV started bringing out the &#8220;pet of the week&#8221; who needed a loving home. </p>
<p>In the past 10 years, I think everyone I know who got a dog or a cat got their pet through a rescue organization. I know several places where I could &#8220;adopt&#8221; a dog or cat. I wouldn&#8217;t know where to go to buy one. </p>
<p>I thought I remembered that Pet Rocks came with adoption papers, but I probably mistaken. The wikipedia article makes no mention of adoption papers. (For those of you who are oh so young, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock" rel="nofollow">pet rocks</a> were a short-lived fad back in 1975. Yes, the 1970s were a strange time.)</p>
<p>Perhaps I am mixing it up with Cabbage Patch Kids (1978 onward). I&#8217;m pretty sure that they came with adoption papers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Divorce That Has No Name by Peter Hoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to child support, custody, and visitation issues, do the courts treat couples who were married (and are now divorcing) differently than couples who were not married (and are now breaking up)? 

The only difference of which I am aware regards paternity. In the case of a marriage, any child born within that marriage is considered the child of the husband, and he would be liable for child support, even if he were to discover that he was not the biological father of that child. However, a man who was not married to the mother would no longer have to pay child support if he were able to prove that he was not the father of the child he had previously believed was his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to child support, custody, and visitation issues, do the courts treat couples who were married (and are now divorcing) differently than couples who were not married (and are now breaking up)? </p>
<p>The only difference of which I am aware regards paternity. In the case of a marriage, any child born within that marriage is considered the child of the husband, and he would be liable for child support, even if he were to discover that he was not the biological father of that child. However, a man who was not married to the mother would no longer have to pay child support if he were able to prove that he was not the father of the child he had previously believed was his.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Divorce That Has No Name by Elizabeth Marquardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Marquardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Like.&#8221;</p>
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