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The Divorce That Has No Name

Amber Lapp 09.05.2010 4:10 PM

 

Today at a Labor Day weekend picnic, David and I talked with a counselor whose experience confirmed something that we’ve suspected: cohabiting couples who break up are often at the same place emotionally as recently divorced couples. It makes sense. Married couples who have lived together before marriage tell us that, emotionally, living together in a committed relationship is no different than living together as husband and wife. More and more cohabiting couples have children, and maybe even own homes before marriage, so oftentimes marriage changes the woman’s name and the bank account (maybe), but not much else.

 So, it makes sense that ending a cohabiting relationship could have the same devastating effect as divorce.

 David and I have termed this “the divorce that has no name.”


Drew Barrymore on Babies

Amber Lapp 09.02.2010 9:35 PM

After reading Elizabeth’s post about Sandra Bullock, I happened to read this about Drew Barrymore in an interview with USA Weekend.

“‘Kids, marriage, I am evaluating all that stuff,’ [Barrymore] says, ‘and I am excited that I don’t have the answers.’

Would Barrymore have to be married to have children?

‘Definitely not,’ she replies. ‘My mother was a single parent.’ She laughs, again with that hint of uncertainty.

‘We are no mold, that’s for sure. I have too many friends who are single parents, same-sex couples or in a circumstance where they don’t have a partner. So I know it does not have to be one way.’”


The Subject We Don’t Talk About

Elizabeth Marquardt 09.02.2010 11:54 AM

Here at FamilyScholars, until yesterday, that subject was…abortion.

Why?

Because twenty-some years ago, when some people concerned about the family came together, they wished to try something different: to see if scholars and leaders from the left and the right could engage with one another on the topic of family structure. Then, as now, there was a raging culture war over abortion. Then, there was a simmering battle over gay rights that, I believe it’s reasonable to say, has become a culture war over gay marriage.

To see if it was possible to do something different, those early leaders proposed a discussion on the family that bracketed two issues: abortion and homosexuality. If we could set aside our differences on those topics, could we make headway on the broader question of family structure and child well-being?

For many years, I think, it worked. A consensus among the center-left and the center-right was forged, one that can be seen in various documents (see for example here, here, and here) and that has been broadly discussed in news media and in histories of that time.

Then came gay marriage in Massachusetts in 2004. At that moment, anyone who studied or talked about or was concerned about marriage in America had to start deciding, and fast, whether they were for legalizing gay marriage or against it, whether they were on the gay marriage bus or off of it. We could no longer bracket anything having to do with homosexuality and say, “Let’s focus on other things.” Right now, the heat and light and debate on marriage in America is all about gay marriage. To ignore it is, itself, a choice with consequences. One result of the gay marriage culture war is that it’s been much harder, in the years since, to find consensus between the center-left and the center-right on family structure issues, even when they have nothing to do with families led by gay and lesbian persons.

Several years ago I found myself drawn to the question of how reproductive technologies impact the people conceived this way. With colleagues I studied the question and released a report on how young adults conceived through sperm donation fare. As I delved into this topic, I realized that our attempt to bracket abortion from the discussion was becoming increasingly difficult, at least for me. To talk about the commodification of children, or the rhetoric of “wanted” children (those conceived through ARTs are said to be “wanted,” those aborted are said to be “unwanted”), or the choices urged upon young women in their fertile years who then find themselves ready to have children but are no longer fertile — all of this and more continually raises the question of abortion.

But we have continued bracketing that question. Until yesterday.

My colleague, guest blogger Karen Clark, posted on the blog yesterday a compelling link to the story of a young woman whose biological mother attempted to abort her when the pregnancy was seven and one-half months along. The abortion “failed” and the child, Gianna Jessen, was born.  Read her testimony before a Senate subcomittee in 1996. Karen noted, accurately in my view, that though many people view the debates about ARTs and abortion as being entirely separate (one is about “giving” life and making “wanted” children, the other is about “taking” life and preventing “unwanted” children), they are actually inextricably linked, in part because they both rely on a rhetoric of reproductive choice and adult rights.

I read Karen’s post and wondered what to do. Should I call her and tell her we don’t talk about abortion on this site?

No, I decided. She’s raised an important point that needs to be discussed. So I went ahead and added a point of my own, citing an article written last week in which the writer, Mary Rose Somarriba of First Things,  pointed to the recent revelations from the U.K. that some women who have achieved pregnancies through IVF have then aborted the pregnancies (something I’ve been reading about, but have not blogged about). She noted the discomfiture with which this news has been greeted in mainstream media and asked, astutely, “When we protect babies that are wanted by their mothers, but don’t protect those who are unwanted by their mothers, what do we do when a mother can’t make up her mind?”

Then comments began to come. I watched them, closely, and was relieved that they were, in my own view, calm, compassionate, clear.

Then, as I was walking my kids to the car after soccer practice late yesterday, my iphone buzzed and I noticed a new comment. It was also calm and clear. The facts in it were, to my knowledge, entirely accurate. But it touched on the issue of race. Alarm bells went off inside me. I struggled with what to do. The commenter is someone I know, and someone I know to be deeply thoughtful.

After some thought, I deleted her comment. I wrote to her, telling her that following her questions and seeing where they led her was entirely appropriate, but that I needed to talk with her. I asked her if we could speak by phone today.

What I’ve written here is what I was planning to say to her. Since I’ve been distracted this morning and unable to think about anything else, I decided to go ahead and say it here first.

A final note: Our comments policy is now strict about off-topic comments. We have been and will continue to delete off-topic comments, including comments about gay marriage on posts that are not about gay marriage, and we will delete comments about abortion on posts that are not about abortion.

Clearly, this post is about both topics. My request, if it is possible, is for comments on this post to engage with the question of how (and whether) we — America, friends, FamilyScholars bloggers and commenters — should talk about these topics that, too often, divide us.


“I didn’t survive to make everyone comfortable. I survived to stir things up a bit”

Karen Clark 09.01.2010 9:05 AM

Many people do not see the similarities between the “donor conception/surrogacy” and abortion debates because the “donor/surrogate” conceived are considered “loved and wanted” and the aborted were not.  But they do both fall under the same umbrella of “choice” and “reproductive freedom”.

This has always been a sticking point of mine.  I think an important question that we as a society should be asking ourselves is “Do we have a responsibility for our own sperm and egg when combined to create a new life?” (inside and outside of the womb).  And if we think, as society with integrity, that we do, what should our society do to promote this?

This post was inspired by a talk I just listened to by an abortion survivor, Gianna Jessen.  I found this to be profoundly moving and thoughtful.

Please listen: It is in two parts PART 1 and PART 2

But I didn’t survive to make everyone comfortable.  I survived to stir things up a bit….At the end of the day is it all about you or me?  You better be nice to me because my Father runs the world.


WSJ Blog: Divorce and Infidelity Down in Downturn

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.31.2010 5:28 PM

…according to fresh data released on Friday from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, the divorce rate is at its lowest point since the early 1970s. And infidelity has continued to decline.

The divorce rate per 1,000 married women sank to 16.4 in 2009 from 16.9 the year before and a far cry from 22.6 in 1980, according to an analysis of the data from the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia.

It runs counter to this image people have of Tiger Woods and divorce,” Prof. Bradford Wilcox, director of the National Marriage Project, says. “They get a sense from the media that divorce is prevalent but the reality is we’re not experiencing divorce that way.”


Have Baby, Lose Weight, Get Married

Amber Lapp 08.30.2010 10:54 PM

“Ain’t gonna have your baby til you take me down to the little white church!” blared the country music at the self-proclaimed “hick” night club we went to on Saturday with two young couples that we met here in Ohio. One couple just graduated high school, got pregnant a month after dating, and is now engaged. The other couple, ages 22 and 20, will be married next month, and they just found out they were pregnant Saturday morning. They had been trying for a few months now, and they are thrilled. Read More


No-fault

David Blankenhorn 08.30.2010 5:16 PM

At the The Daily Beast, Beverly Willet has an interesting article on no-fault divorce.


The Meaning of Marriage “Up in the Air”

David Lapp 08.30.2010 12:29 PM

My wife and I watched Up in the Air last night. The movie raises a poignant question: given the tenuousness of the marriage tie today, “what’s the point?” Aren’t people who espouse the marital ideal deluding themselves? 

Here’s a conversation between Ryan Bingham, the commitment-free baby boomer played by George Clooney who makes his living firing people for companies too cowardly to do it themselves, and Natalie Keener, the up-start, idealistic 23 year-old Cornell grad who’s promoting her plan of cutting costs by firing people over the Internet. Natalie is dumbfounded by Ryan’s blasé attitude toward marriage and children: Read More


Divorce Porn

David Blankenhorn 08.29.2010 11:28 AM

From today’s NYTs:

A recently separated friend of mine, still in her 30s, has a term for the current cultural fixation with failing marriages. She calls it “divorce porn.”


Marriage Matters…For Me, Anyway

Amber Lapp 08.26.2010 9:11 PM

Carolyn and her husband married at the age of 21, eighteen months after the birth of their son. She would not advise having kids outside of marriage (or outside of a stable long-term relationship), but although she always used protection, she still got pregnant, and, as with most of the working class women I speak with, abortion was not an option. These women are not particularly religious, but they say that they could just never bring themselves to kill their own children.

 Despite the pregnancy, Carolyn and Gary didn’t feel the need to get married, but Carolyn’s Baptist (but divorced) parents pestered them until they got engaged. It wasn’t that they hadn’t talked about marriage or didn’t think they would eventually get married. It’s just that they didn’t feel the rush. They were already living together, they already had a kid. Nothing changed when they did say their vows. Why get married? Read More


The Brady Rule

David Blankenhorn 08.26.2010 12:45 PM

A year or so ago my colleague Barbara Dafoe Whitehead, I suspect largely in jest, offered the thesis that famous professional athletes who screw up their family lives promptly go out onto the playing field and … injure themselves.  I recall that her Exhibit A at the time was Tom Brady, the golden boy quarterback of the New England Patriots, who left his wife and kids for, I don’t remember, I think a glamorous model, and then went out onto the field … and promptly broke his leg.  And it’s not just Brady.  There really is a pattern here (he says).  Alex Rodriguez of the New York Yankees has injured himself several times in the past year or so — in fact, he’s on the DL list as we speak — and is thus having a distinctly sub-par year, after doing … pretty much exactly what Brady did.   

What explains this phenomenon?  Read More


‘Family Structure and Children’s Educational Outcomes’

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.25.2010 10:53 AM

As the kids go back to school our 2005 research brief, “Family Structure and Children’s Educational Outcomes,” by University of Chicago professor Barbara Schneider, is once again timely:

A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW of recent academic research shows that family structure — whether a child’s parents are married, divorced, single, remarried, or cohabiting — is a significant influence on children’s educational performance. Family structure affects preschool readiness. It affects educational achievement at the elementary, secondary, and college levels. Family structure influences these outcomes in part because family structure affects a range of child behaviors that can bear directly on educational success, such as school misbehavior, drug and alcohol consumption, sexual activity and teen pregnancy, and psychological distress. There is a solid research basis for the proposition that strengthening U.S. family structure — increasing the proportion of children growing up with their own, two married parents — would significantly improve the educational achievements of U.S. children.

You can download the six page brief, free.


‘More Chores Might Mean More Sex’

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.20.2010 3:44 PM

From the NYT Freakonomics blog, just in time for the weekend…

Using data from the National Survey of Families and Households, the authors show that certain types of couples have superior time-organization skills across all their major time commitments: the workplace, at home and in bed.

No pressure, folks.


Responding to ‘why is all the effort going into gay marriage?’

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.19.2010 10:26 AM

At this post some ask why the effort is going into gay marriage and not into divorce or other things that heterosexual people are doing when it comes to marriage and childbearing.

Speaking for our organization, listed below are the marriage-related research publications released by our organization over the last five years. One of them is about gay marriage.

http://familyscholars.org/2009/12/01/the-state-of-our-unions-2009/

http://familyscholars.org/2009/10/01/the-marriage-index/

http://familyscholars.org/2008/08/01/the-american-family-1988%e2%80%932028/

http://familyscholars.org/2008/07/01/divorce-dads-and-the-well-being-of-children/

http://familyscholars.org/2008/06/01/is-religion-an-answer/

http://familyscholars.org/2008/05/01/the-benefits-of-marriage-for-african-american-men/

http://familyscholars.org/2008/04/15/the-taxpayer-costs-of-divorce-and-unwed-childbearing/

http://familyscholars.org/2008/03/01/for-a-new-revisionism/

http://familyscholars.org/2008/02/01/the-shift-and-the-denial/

http://familyscholars.org/2007/05/01/responding-to-the-black-marriage-crisis/

http://familyscholars.org/2007/05/01/religion-race-and-relationships-in-urban-america/

http://familyscholars.org/2007/02/01/marriage-and-mental-health-in-adults-and-children/

http://familyscholars.org/2006/11/01/the-other-marriage-penalty/

http://familyscholars.org/2006/11/01/marriage-and-the-well-being-of-african-american-boys/

http://familyscholars.org/2006/11/01/the-future-of-marriage/

http://familyscholars.org/2006/09/01/marriage-and-the-law/

http://familyscholars.org/2006/02/01/what-is-americas-most-serious-social-problem/

http://familyscholars.org/2006/02/01/the-scholarly-consensus-on-marriage/

http://familyscholars.org/2005/11/01/family-structure-and-childrens-educational-outcomes/

http://familyscholars.org/2005/09/27/between-two-worlds/

http://familyscholars.org/2005/01/01/the-consequences-of-marriage-for-african-americans/

http://familyscholars.org/2005/01/01/why-marriage-matters-second-edition/


Why We Have Marriage

Amber Lapp 08.18.2010 12:10 PM

As we continue to think more about what is best for children, I thought I’d share this insightful quote I heard recently from a 22 year-old restaurant manager and newlywed. She shared this with me when asked, “Why do we have marriage?”

“I guess in a way to keep families together. Because if you think about it, if you have a guy and a girl who spend their lives together, or who intend to spend their lives together, if they don’t get married, and have children [while unmarried], it’s too easy of a getaway. You know, whereas if you’re married you’re talking about divorce, you’re talking about splitting this and splitting that, you know? Some states I think require counseling now if you want to get divorced. So I think it’s kinda nice because you can’t just over something stupid one day totally call off your marriage, you know? You still have a chance to work at it, you know? Which, is maybe a good thing, maybe it’s not a good thing. Maybe it’s more to keep people—or families—together, instead of everybody have a momma and poppa over here and moms here, dads there, you’ve got four step-kids, four regular kids, you know? Yeah, it’d be complicated [without marriage], there’d be kids all over the frickin’ place. Next thing you know you’re dating a third cousin and you don’t even realize it because mom went with this person and dad went with this person and they both split and went with these people. So I think maybe it will, ummm, save a little bit of chaos….I just kind of pulled that out of nowhere…”

Although she might feel as if she just pulled this thought from nowhere, I suspect that much of it comes from personal experience: her brother does shared parenting with his ex-girlfriend, she dated men with children and had to deal with their babies’ mamas, and she had custody over her 15 year old niece when she herself was just 18.


‘His Sperm, My Choice’

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.17.2010 7:50 PM

NPR producer Alicia Montgomery has written a thoughtful reflection at the NPR blog on our report, My Daddy’s Name is Donor. She shares her own experience growing up with a single mother, her experience as an African American woman who has been “hearing about the inevitable failure of my family and everyone in it for years,” and why she decided to have a child alone via donor insemination, in part because she felt that if, growing up, her mother “had handed me a folder and said, ‘Listen, the reason your father didn’t show up is that – before you were born or even conceived – he signed this piece of paper agreeing to have no contact with me or with you until you turned eighteen,’ that would’ve been better than what I had.” 

For me – and for so many other kids I knew whose fathers weren’t around – what did the most damage was the emotional whiplash of having your dad there one day, and gone the next.  On your 5th birthday, he’d swoop in for a weekend of ballgames, movies, gifts and pizza, and then do nothing for your 6th, a card for your 7th, a gift for the 8th, and back to nothing for the 9th.  The suspense injects a little bit of poison into every celebration, every milestone, and every holiday.


Charles Dickens and Divorce Statistics

Amber Lapp 08.16.2010 2:58 PM

After reading Elizabeth’s post, “The Accidental Husband” and her comment about divorce statistics, I realized that I have an anecdote to share. Before I share the anecdote, let me just say that it seems like everyone I’ve interviewed lately tells me that half of all marriages end in divorce. The fear of divorce is often a reason given for delaying marriage or not marrying at all. Instead these people opt to cohabit and raise a family without the legal status of marriage (thereby avoiding an expensive divorce if they “end up not being right for each other”).

Yesterday, however, I heard one young and engaged working class woman rail against statistics. When asked what she thought about the idea that people who marry young are more likely to divorce she retorted: “That’s not always true. Yes, there is a lot of that…[but] I hate to say it, statistics aren’t always right …science is not always the exact thing. There’s a lot more people that get married our age that actually last than what science thinks…It all depends on the person…Not everybody’s based on a statistic. If we were, everybody’d be plain Jane.” Read More


The Accidental Husband

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.15.2010 11:31 PM

While visiting family last week I watched the largely forgettable movie, The Accidental Husband, starring Uma Thurman, on DVD. Thurman plays a know-it-all radio host/relationship therapist.

One thing did strike me. One always hears in pop culture that “half of marriages end in divorce.” That “stat” hangs like a guillotine over the heads of young people as they contemplate their future. So it was a relief to hear the Thurman character tell a caller the probably more accurate stat that “43 percent of marriages end in divorce.” But she still didn’t get it quite right. It’s about 43 percent of first marriages that will likely end in divorce. For remarriages, it’s more like 60 percent.

Might be good to tell the young people that, too.


‘Prop 8 judge makes strange charge’

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.15.2010 9:53 AM

I was away part of last week and am catching up on blogging. This op-ed by George Mason University law professor Nelson Lund appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle on August 8th, and it’s excellent.

A federal judge in San Francisco ruled Wednesday that President Obama is a bigot. And not just the president. Joe Biden as well, and Hillary Rodham Clinton and Sandra Day O’Connor. And maybe you, too.

The judge didn’t put it that way, of course….

…After a lengthy trial, the judge found that the people of California must have adopted the traditional definition of marriage because of moral or religious contempt for homosexuals and their relationships.

It was a strange charge to make against the people of California. California has the most progressive domestic partnership law in the nation, which gives same-sex couples all the same substantive rights and privileges available to married couples. … He reasoned that every other possible explanation for the voters’ decision was so ridiculous that only anti-gay feelings were left.

Without marriage, men often would be uncertain about paternity or indifferent to it. If left unchecked, many men would have little incentive to invest in the rearing of their offspring, and the ensuing irresponsibility would have made the development of civilization impossible.

The fundamental purpose of marriage is to encourage biological parents, especially fathers, to take responsibility for their children. Because this institution responds to a phenomenon uniquely created by heterosexual intercourse, the meaning of marriage has always been inseparable from the problem it addresses….


To Jennifer Roback Morse

Elizabeth Marquardt 08.15.2010 9:40 AM

Thank you.