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Saturday, October 11, 2003
From Jawanza Kunjufu:"I don't believe our major problem is racism," said Kunjufu, as if he were speaking not only to those in the theater, but also to all of the nation's 30 million-plus African-Americans. "The greatest demon in black America is fatherlessness. The common variable for the [African-American] dropout rate, the incarceration rate and drug use is the daddy didn't stay."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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In the NYTs Sunday magazine, Matt Bai has a niece piece on the Center for American Progress, a progressive think tank being organized by John Podesta, Clinton's former chief of staff.
Bai ends with the observation I've had since I first began reading about this effort, which is that any think tank that primarily does what Podesta proudly says that this one is going to do -- focus largely on tactics (such as grooming new TV talking heads, getting out "your side's" op-eds, etc.) , on political strategy and on trying to frame short-term political-electoral issues, and on not straying too far from Democratic Party interest and constituency groups -- is going to spend a lot of money and get precious few results.
Podesta's strategy pretends to be tough, but actually it's weak. It never rises above tactics, spinning, and more-of-the-same-only-more Washington, D.C. stuff. Meanwhile, the real intellectual work that needs to be done -- including, for example, work on marriage and the family (see, I did find a way to get it in!) -- will remain undone. Which is a shame, for progressives and for everyone else, too.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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One of Romania's rival gypsy kings has thrown his weight behind the campaign to stop child marriages among the Roma.
More on this story here.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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MOROCCO IS CHANGING ITS FAMILY LAW TO GIVE MORE RIGHTS TO WOMEN:The [current] law, based on Islamic Sharia, has left women in a vulnerable position within the family. Husbands have been able to divorce their wives easily, and turn them out of the home, while it has been very difficult for women to get out of abusive relationships. Now part of that law is going to change. Women will get property rights within marriage, and both spouses will have equal authority in the family. Divorce will be made easier for women, and the age of marriage for girls will be raised from 15 to 18. Polygamy will not be outlawed but will be made more difficult - a man will need to get consent from his existing wife before marrying another. As I talk to Muslim scholars and leaders whom I respect about the challenges facing the Arab and Muslim world, it seems to me that possibly the single most urgent reforms are more education for women and equal rights for women.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Friday, October 10, 2003
FROM THE ONION:Amanda Manis was dumped Monday after forwarding boyfriend Anthony Madrid a link for the humor web site LunaticLobsters.com. "I was convinced that I had found my soulmate, my kindred spirit, the woman I could grow old with," Madrid said. "Then, out of nowhere, Mandy e-mails me this stupid link. When I saw those Flash-animation cartoons, I knew it was over." Madrid has previously dumped girlfriends for owning roller blades, buying Vegemite, and watching Craig Kilborn.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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E. J. DIONNE ON SCHWARZENEGGER AND CONSERVATIVES:In the California recall, the right wing's moralistic masters of attack choked on their own partisanship. These are the people who praised the "courage" of anyone who reported anything embarrassing about the sex life of a certain former president. Then they painted all who did not respond with indignation as "apologists" complicit in America's moral decline and the "death of outrage." Guess who the apologists were this time? All of a sudden it was Arnold Schwarzenegger being accused of groping, fondling and humiliating women. Oh, yes, there was outrage on the right. But it was directed at the Los Angeles Times for investigating and reporting on the charges ... Mark Oct. 7, 2003, as the day conservatives' moral outrage died. Ouch.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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HARDWIRED (CONT.):A rejected lover's broken heart may cause as much distress in a pain center of the brain as an actual physical injury, according to a new study ... Naomi Eisenberger, a scientist at UCLA and the lead author of the study that appears today in the journal Science, said the study suggests that the need for social inclusiveness is deep-seated. "These findings show how deeply rooted our need is for social connection," said Eisenberger. "There's something about exclusion from others that is perceived as being as harmful to our survival as something that can physically hurt us." The shock and distress of this rejection registered in the same part of the brain, called the anterior cingulate cortex, that responds to physical pain, Eisenberger said. The researchers cite divorce as an example of what they are talking about.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN:Local politicians and those against the amendment are diving into the marriage debate. Eight people showed up at Thursday's Kent County Commissioner meeting to protest a county resolution supporting a proposed amendment to the state constitution that would define marriage as exclusively between one man and one woman ... State Senator Bill Hardiman of Kentwood and Majority Leader Ken Sikkema of Wyoming are two of the bill's top sponsors. Bill Hardiman has been a main leader of the Grand Rapids community marriage policy movement.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM INDIA: "All India Women's Empowerment Association president Subhashini Ali has decided to stage a protest against the useless display of opulence and wealth in marriage parties as a part of its anti-dowry campaign."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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"Blacks, White Evangelicals United in Gay Marriage Debate":Across the country, unusual alliances are forming to protect the traditional definition of marriage from anticipated court rulings. While the movement draws from a variety of demographic groups, it relies heavily on two -- white evangelicals and religious blacks -- that have historically been at odds over issues ranging from affirmative action to welfare reform.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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From Melbourne, Anne Manne writes about our recent report, Hardwired to Connect:The American researchers argue that the contemporary social and economic environment for young people is at best anaemic and at worst toxic. The chief cause is a profound loss of social connectedness. Authoritative communities - meaning intergenerational groups with a long-term commitment to children, who provide models of what it is to be a good person, who offer a secure base - are disappearing or disintegrating ... Hardwired to Connect proposes a model of social change, not merely more pharmacological Band-Aid treatments such as Ritalin and Prozac, which is like prescribing Panadol for black lung disease. Instead, the social ecology of the young must be improved. Not just treatment but prevention. We must begin to recreate the village.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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GOOD DIVORCES, CONT'D: Every so often you get a news story about divorced and remarried parents who are all able to get together for important events in the child�s life, like soccer games (in fact, sitting together at soccer games could almost be a trope of these stories, it appears so often). Here�s one from today�s Portland Tribune:
Take the Masseys and Scotts, for example. Kelly Scott and her husband, Steve, sit side-by-side with Scott's ex-husband, Ron Massey, and his new partner at their kids' football and basketball games in Portland, Beaverton and Tigard. They sometimes attend parent-teacher meetings at their kids' schools with three or four adults present.
"I know there's nothing better for my kids than seeing us all sit together on the bleachers," Kelly Scott says. "My son says: 'I love it when you sit together. I love it when we are one big family.' " I hate to sound cynical, but these feel-good stories make me nuts. When a kid from an intact family is on the soccer field, is he paying an ounce of attention to his parents in the stands? Maybe if he scores a goal or fumbles badly, he looks up to them for affirmation or encouragement. But otherwise, his mind is on the field, the game, his friends, himself. So we�re supposed to feel good and congratulate these divorced parents that their little boy, who should be able to be immersed in his own child-centered world, is instead glancing up at the stands at his four parents, sitting together for once and not fighting, and feeling grateful that we are all �one big family�? It may be a �good divorce� story, but it doesn�t sound good to me.
posted by Elizabeth Marquardt
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IN AUSTRALIA:
The Chief Justice of the Family Court has warned against introducing a rule that would automatically give divorced parents equal access to their children.
Justice Alistair Nicholson says children might be put at risk if they're forced to spend time with an abusive parent. The Lone Fathers Association says something needs to be done because in its view the Court is biased towards women.
I�m glad the Chief Justice turned down a rule that would give all divorced parents �equal access� to their kids, but I don�t think violence is the only reason one should be concerned about it (though it�s a good reason � it has always seemed odd to me that some divorces happen because of violence in the marriage, so after the divorce mom doesn�t have to be around violent dad anymore, but unless he�s so violent that he can be denied access to his kids then the kids might have to visit alone with him. What sense does that make?)
The idea of �equal access� sounds way too much like a notion meant to fulfill the parents� ideas of rights � �equal rights� � to their child, and not a notion that puts the child�s needs first. As Judith Wallerstein writes in her recent book, What About the Kids: Raising Kids Before, During, and After Divorce, there is no one custody arrangement that is suitable for all children and families. Too often, she says, she has seen �compromise� arrangements that try to meet the parents halfway and end up with something that was not worked out with the child first in mind. (For instance, dad wanting the child every weekend and mom wanting the child for two consecutive weeks in a row, so they �split the difference� and each get the child half of every week � but is splitting their time between two homes every week an arrangement that really best suits the child?)
A blanket requirement of �equal access� could lock parents into splitting the kids 50/50 with no regard for the need for continuity or permanence for the child, and no recognition that one parent may be able to provide a better home than the other, or that children do best when they live primarily in one home rather than divided equally between two homes.
posted by Elizabeth Marquardt
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Thursday, October 09, 2003
FROM CHILE: "Politicians under intense pressure from the Catholic Church not to legalise divorce in Chile, one of the few countries where it is banned, may include two marriage modes in a new law, with and without the possibility of divorce."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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President Bush's statement proclaiming "Marriage Protection Week, 2003"
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM OKLAHOMA: Pottawatomie County Extension educator Sonya Rickman is offering a free workshop to help residents with marriage and relationship skills ... Rickman is one of more than 190 people throughout the state offering free relationships skills workshops in conjunction with the Oklahoma Marriage Initiative (OMI). The Prevention and Relationship Enhancement Program (PREP) is the chosen curriculum of the OMI. Based on more than 20 years of research, PREP relationship workshops focus on teaching couples/people how to better communicate, how to solve problems as a team, how to manage conflict and still maintain their friendship and commitment.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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OOPS: In a story at FoxNews.com this morning, I'm cited as proponent of eliminating the distinctions in law between married and unmarried couples.
Yikes! In fact, I am strongly opposed to this idea. The interviewer (this was an on-camera interview for Fox TV) asked me, what is the motivation of the people who favor this change? I answered the question as best I could. This is how the answer appeared in the story this morning:"The goal is equality between married and unmarried persons,� said David Blankenhorn at the Institute for American Values. �� Why should you be treated differently by the law just because you're married?"
But opponents say the idea of de-legalizing marriage ... The "..." in the quote attributed to me was where I had said "Their view is". Oh, well.
Update: After I complained this morning, Fox News has changed wording of the story, making it at least a bit clearer.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Wednesday, October 08, 2003
MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE IN CHINA:
Autumn is always wedding season in China, but this week record numbers of couples have been marrying in cities like Beijing, Tianjin and Shanghai, according to officials and news media reports. �
The surge began on Oct. 1, when China celebrated its National Day and enacted a handful of new laws. None has garnered more attention or enthusiasm than the new marriage law, which ends two longstanding requirements: a health certificate and, most annoying, a letter from an employer confirming that a person is single.
�Chinese officials are touting the new marriage law, as well as a new streamlined divorce law, as evidence of government reform. �But the new law is not causing social change as much as keeping up with it. Indeed, the law reflects the continued erosion of the old Communist work unit, or danwei, which the government once used to tightly monitor the daily lives of its citizens. With more and more people working in the private sector, the employer permission slip had become increasingly irrelevant. Another article reports that the new streamlined divorce law is, at least for the time being, prompting a higher rate of divorces as well.
posted by Elizabeth Marquardt
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Well, Arnold the Groper is now Arnold the Governor.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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Tuesday, October 07, 2003
STEPHANIE COONTZ'S STRAWMEN: From an ABC News article on marriage education:"There is a real tremendous problem with telling people that marriage is the answer to every issue that people face in this complex changing society of ours," said Stephanie Coontz, who chairs the Council on Contemporary Families. I don't think the problem is tremendous. Because I don't think the problem Coontz references is real. Can she name anyone who believes that "marriage is the answer to every issue that people face in this complex changing society of ours"? Coontz wants to frame the issue so that if marriage isn't the answer to every issue, it shouldn't be part of an answer to any issue.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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GAY MARRIAGE COVERAGE: In the USA Today article David describes below, I actually think Stephanie Coontz gives a fairly objective analysis. But the Coontz and Schwartz, both professors, are obviously in favor of same-sex marriage. Why do articles like this never quote professors or public intellectuals (not political/religious activists) who oppose s-s-m?
UPDATE: Eugene Volokh points to some potential problems with the poll.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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NEW POLL ON SSM:The nation essentially is split in half over whether to accept gay and lesbian marriage, a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll finds. While 48% of those surveyed say allowing gay unions "will change our society for the worse," 50% say they would be an improvement or have no effect ... 67% of those ages 18 to 29 and 53% of those ages 30 to 49 say gay unions would have no harmful effect or might make society better. These numbers are interesting, but the article itself in my view is almost comically biased -- it comes pretty close to saying outright that people who go to church regularly are bigots who are part of the problem. For their "experts" on this subject, the USA Today reporter chose Stephanie Coontz and Pepper Schwartz. For example, Schwartz says:"Once you think marriage isn't God's work, it's about the human heart, you think why is (a homosexual person's) heart any less loving or needy than mine? If you pull away from the Bible as authority, the right to marry becomes a matter of conscience, fair play and the higher morality of love." Now, there's a fair-minded analysis, and a prescription for what ails us! Since the Bible is opposed to conscience, fair play, and the morality of love, and since it teaches that some human hearts aren't worth anything, we as a society need to "pull away" from that damn book.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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ARE YOU AN URBAN TRIBE-STER? In today�s USA Today Karen Peterson features a new book on �urban tribes,� large groups of young adult friends, often in urban areas, who rely on one another for friendship and support. Peterson writes, �The latest theory of young-adult development emphasizes the importance of delaying marriage until you know who you are.�
Diane Sollee of Smart Marriages responds with great wisdom on her newslist:
� This is the concept that drives me nuts. As if it's all about ME - if I know who I am, that will lead to marital success. This thinking leads to so much divorce. "Ooops! I waited till I was 38 to get married. I thought I knew who I was. But, it turns out I didn't wait quite long enough. Now, at 45, I realize I wasn't quite fully actualized when I married and, thus, I married the wrong person and, thus, ooops, I have to get a divorce and start over on my quest for individual self-actualization and for finding the perfect partner to match who I am." What a disservice this kind of thinking is. �
Books like this feed their fear that it's all about knowing who they really are - about being self-actualized. Being a finished product. That thinking would assure marital happiness for about a month, until both changed. Unless there is a bad accident and someone is left brain dead, both partners will continue to change and grow throughout life lives. She also asks a question that I find quite intriguing:
I wonder what the research would find if they followed these friendship bonds - all the friendship research I've seen shows that friendships last on average 7 years.
posted by Elizabeth Marquardt
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FROM BRITAIN:A leading private school headteacher yesterday warned of the "disastrous impact" of marriage breakdown on children's education and emotional well-being, as he urged society to reverse its "selfish and self-indulgent attitudes".
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FATHERS RIGHTS (CONT.): At Men's News Daily, Tom Sylvester has been engaged in a debate about marriage and fathers rights. Here is his latest entry.
I agree with Tom that the marriage movement should essentially steer clear of the fathers rights guys. They are too angry with their ex-wives and "the government" to be reasonable about anything; they tend to view the world in fantastic, conspiratorial terms that make them seem about half nuts to anyone but the initiated; they see themselves essentially as victims and demand that everyone else view them that way, too; they often reek of misogyny; and, most of all, their core agenda -- more "rights" for divorced fathers and thus, by clear implication, fewer "rights" for divorced mothers -- is an almost entirely misguided way of viewing the core problem, which is the weakening of marriage.
In his contribution to this debate, Stephen Baskerville says:I must admit to being a little perplexed as to why anyone would perceive a conflict between those who advocate for marriage and those who advocate for fathers. Well, let's try to clear up that perplexity. First, Stephen Baskerville does not "advocate for fathers." He certainly doesn't advocate for me. He advocates for one specific group: divorced fathers who feel that they've gotten a raw deal from their ex-wives and from the courts. That's his group. And the primary conflicts between his group's goals and the marriage movement should be clear to anyone. The marriage movement mainly wants less divorce, more conciliation and equal regard between husbands and wives, and a strong focus on child well-being. His group mainly wants reformed divorce, a strong societal shift towards men's "rights," and therefore a focus less on either gender conciliation or what is good for children than on what angry divorced men believe to be good for ... angry divorced men. Does that help to clear it up?
posted by David Blankenhorn
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This is the first article I've seen discussing in any detail some of the political and social implications of the fact that African Americans are far more opposed to SSM than are whites.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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The Detroit Free Press on efforts to amend the state constitution to prevent SSM: "If Michigan legislators feel obliged to prove they are so "pro-marriage," they should encourage more people to join the institution rather than ostracize some who want to."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, argues for a federal marrige amendment.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Monday, October 06, 2003
Results from a preliminary report entitled, "The Costly Consequences of Divorce in Utah: The Impact on Couples, Community, and Government" conducted at Utah State University by researcher David Schramm, divorce and its direct and indirect economic consequences costs the United States $33.3 billion per year, or $312 per household.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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WHY THE ONGOING NEED TO DEFEND CLINTON? At TomPaine.com, Richard Blow says that what Arnold did should disqualify him from elective office, whereas what Clinton did was no big deal.
His first sentence: "Just a few short years ago, they were lambasting Bill Clinton for his long-previous treatment of Paula Jones." ("They" being hypocritical conservatives who wanted to impeach Clinton but want now to give Arnold a clean bill of health.) And a bit later: "They [Arnold's gropes] were not consensual, like Bill Clinton's tryst with Monica Lewinsky."
In the New York Times on Saturday, Katha Pollitt makes the same point, remiding us that "Ms. Lewinsky � unlike the the women in the Los Angeles Times article � volunteered herself."
Well, I join Richard Blow and Katha Pollitt in condemning Schwarzenegger, but the last time I looked, Clinton had been accused by Juanita Broderick of raping her; had been accused by Kathleen Willey of, Schwarzenegger-like, groping and fondling her in the White House; had been accused by Paula Jones, an employee at the time, of making crude and unwelcome sexual advances toward her; and had, by all accounts, treated that dim-witted, little-more-than-a-kid Monica Lewinsky, half his age and an intern at his White House, for goodness sakes, as little more than a disposable sex toy.
Now, all of this is old news, and none of it lessens my disgust at Schwarzenegger. But please, as Katha Pollitt, Richard Blow and other in their political camp finally rekindle their outrage over sexual harrassment in high places, can we just leave Clinton out of it?
posted by David Blankenhorn
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CUSTODY BATTLES (CONT.):When a small business owner goes through a divorce fight, it's often more than a personal ordeal. The company can become part of the battle. A difficult divorce can even put a business at risk if the owner is forced to pay a huge sum to a former spouse ... Violet Woodhouse, an attorney and financial planner in Newport Beach, Calif., has advised company owners going through divorce ... Sometimes when couples fight over a company, it's because they started the business together or both worked in it, and now each wants it. The fight becomes a custody battle, because few couples are able to work together after a breakup.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Sunday, October 05, 2003
UNMARRIED WITH CHILDREN: From Caitlin Flanagan�s review of There Goes the Bride in November�s Atlantic magazine (not yet available online). The book is based on an informal survey of several dozen women whose weddings were called off at the last minute. Midway through the review, Flanagan writes:
Consider the Almost Brides, an astonishing number of whom allude in their tales of woe to children: children they have borne to their fianc�s, or to other men, or children that their fianc�s have sired with previous wives or girlfriends. That these broken engagements (many of which ended in rage fests followed by what psychotherapists usually describe as �sexual acting out� on the part of the Almost Brides) may also have constituted periods of significant loss and grieving for these children � who suddenly had to bid good-bye to a person they had expected would be a parent � goes entirely and shamefully unmentioned in There Goes the Bride. Such is the lot of children in our culture: absent stigmas on divorce or single parenting or illegitimacy, with religion often a governing factor in people�s lives only to the extent that it is a boon rather than a constricting force, a child�s fate in life is entirely dependent on the sexual and romantic whims of his parents. And come wedding time, the child is considered merely a cast member, a cunning little ring bearer or flower girl or � worst-case scenario � sulking adolescent in a shiny new suit of clothes, rather than someone whose life is about to be profoundly (if perhaps temporarily) affected by the events at hand.
posted by Elizabeth Marquardt
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MORE FROM THE LA TIMES: "Four More Women Go Public: In all, 15 women have now accused Schwarzenegger of grabbing or groping them."
It seems obvious that there's a pattern here. And since his whole persona seems to suggest an utter narcissist who is all about the will to power, and nothing more, the pattern of humiliating and seeking to dominate people sexually seems to fit. The question is, will anyone care? I hope so, but as I've said, I doubt it, or at least not enough to make much of a difference.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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BLAMING THE VICTIM (REALLY!): At Mens' News Daily, a headline reads, "Feminists Pine for Clinton's Gropes as Arnold Bimbos Multiply." Now, as David pointed out below, there's the usual hypocrisy going on among the usual suspects on the right and the left. But how does being groped by a world-class jerk like Arnold Schwarzenegger make one a "bimbo"? What a disgusting headline.
(Another MND article states that a misguided NFL policy to try to increase the number of black coaches "is as offensive and reactionary as making players stay in segregated hotels." Uh, no. It's not.)
posted by Tom Sylvester
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FATHERHOOD SUPPORT:A Bayh provision tucked in the Senate welfare bill would create a $20 million Challenge Grant program aimed at encouraging states and communities to get donated airtime from broadcasters to promote responsible fatherhood. Donations would be matched by the federal government, and the messages would promote fatherhood and marriage. The bill also would allow the government to spend $50 million for responsible fatherhood programs. Of that, $20 million would go to as many as 10 states to implement responsible fatherhood efforts, such as programs aimed at building parenting skills or providing employment services. Now that federal support for marriage has taken center stage politically, and is generating the most controversy, people seem to have largely forgotten about fatherhood support -- which, just a couple of years ago, was very popular among a lot of people who are now trying to get the marriage bill passed. Personally, I'd like to see both proposals adopted by the Congress.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FATHERS' RIGHTS/MARRIAGE MOVEMENT: Here's my Round Two entry. Also, reader Peter Hoh gives his two cents:...I'm stumped by the opening statements from Stephen Baskerville and Roger F. Gay. They may rally their troops with this kind of writing, but they aren't going to win me over unless they start making sense. Baskerville and Gay need to respond to the marriage movement instead of railing against the child support agents in black helicopters. (Okay, so I exaggerate, but this is how they sound to me.)
As I see it, the marriage movement is a loose network of practitioners and scholars providing information and resources which can help couples enjoy happier, more stable marriages. ...
Certain politicians have an interest in stemming the tide of divorce and unmarried parenthood. They see an ally in the marriage movement, as well as a vehicle for disseminating the marriage-promoting information. Furthermore, these politicians believe that they can avoid creating additional government bureaucracy by giving grants to existing organizations. The political motivations may be debated, but I hardly see how this effort could be perceived as an attempt to strengthen the child support collection industry, as Baskerville and Gay seem to suggest.
My family could be a "poster child" for the marriage movement. Two years ago, my wife and I were headed for a divorce. Instead of divorcing, we rebuilt our marriage -- in large part because of information and resources we found through the SmartMarriages.com website.
So now there's one less broken family, one less angry dad, and one less overworked mother. Is this a bad thing? P.S. In the MND Discussion Forum, I am now being referred to as "Tonya Sylvester" because I'm an "enemy of men."
posted by Tom Sylvester
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