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Saturday, August 09, 2003
Editorial from the Palm Beach Post: "Leave out the 'marriage,' and call it gay 'union'" Is this the start of a trend? Nah.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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In The Village Voice, Richard Goldstein on you-know-what.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM SUNDAY'S NYTs, three quotes on SSM:"I know a lot of people who want to give all the rights and privileges to gay couples that married people have, but they don't want to change the traditional meaning of the term marriage," said Norval D. Glenn, a professor of sociology at the University of Texas who specializes in the demography of the family. "We're more traditional in how we define marriage in this country than is the case in most of the Western world." "I think the average American disapproves of homosexual sex, but tolerates it, much as they respect rights of privacy and self-expression," said Andrew J. Cherlin, a professor of public policy at Johns Hopkins University who specializes in the sociology of the family. "For the average American, civil unions sound like tolerance, but marriage sounds like approval." Or as William Schneider, a CNN commentator and a longtime public opinion analyst, put it: "Look, if you don't call it marriage, you'll get more support."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM TAIWAN: "Fathers appear to be upset this year on the Chinese Father's Day as a group named the "Unhappy Father's Union" protested in front of the Presidential Office yesterday."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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From Melbourne, the always-insightful Anne Manne on a rebuttable presumption for joint custody:I have been alarmed to see the sharp disjuncture between our uncritical embrace of joint custody and well-informed voices urging caution - voices such as Paul Amato and Judith Wallerstein, whose work has shown negative consequences for children of divorce. In Wallerstein's latest book, What about the Kids?, she urges against any single custody policy. Since no one custody form has a better prognosis for kids, she favours deciding on a case-by-case basis. Joint custody can work well. But as a wise judge once said to her, "for joint custody to work you need a joint custody child, a joint custody mother, and a joint custody father". It requires low conflict, co-operative parents who live close to each other. Above all, it needs a robust, flexible child capable of shifting continuously between two places. For high-conflict families, more distant custody arrangements with less contact are better. Otherwise, at every changeover, the interspousal war continues raging. The child feels safe nowhere. Nothing could be more damaging. Finally, Wallerstein urges that any custody arrangement be reviewed every few years. Children's needs change dramatically. What harms a baby may help an older child, hungry for contact with their father, to flourish. Adolescent children can be particularly bitter with a rigid arrangement to suit mum or dad, but cutting them off from their peer group. The Aussies seem to be rushing toward a change in favor of a rebuttable presumption for joint custody. I agree with Anne Manne that the government should reconsider.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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The total fertility rate in the EU in 2002 remained virtually unchanged at 1.47 children per woman compared with 2001 and 2000. In the US the fertility rate in 2002 was 2.06, in Japan 1.37 and in India 2.98.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM CANADA:The federal government is considering broadening its same-sex marriage reference to the Supreme Court to ask if a non-marriage form of civil union would violate the Charter of Rights, a senior government source says. The government still wants to legalize same-sex marriages, but would put civil unions before the court in a bid to make it clear that marriages are the only option that does not violate the Constitution, sources said. And some interesting public opinion news on the civil unions option: The idea of civil unions, as opposed to same-sex marriages, has resonance with many Canadians, a new poll suggests. The Ipsos-Reid survey, done for CTV and The Globe and Mail, found a group of people who support civil unions between those who support and oppose same-sex marriages. A total of 38 per cent said the word "marriage" should apply to any two people regardless of gender, 37 per cent said marriage should apply only to the union of a man and a woman. About 24 per cent said marriage should refer only to a man and a woman and another legal term should be used for the formal union of same-sex couples. I was probably wrong a few days ago when I wrote that "most" people who oppose or have doubts about SSM would have little or no objection to either civil unions or other legal changes aimed at delivering benefits to SS couples. The right word is probably "many." But I think my main point still stands: advocates of SSM don't want civil unions, they want marriage.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Friday, August 08, 2003
TWO CHEERS FOR MANLINESS.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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In the The New Yorker, Rebecca Mead reviews �Against Love: A Polemic� (Pantheon; $24), by Laura Kipnis. Good line: "The hero of Kipnis�s story is adultery."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Jonathan Rauch's Atlantic article from last year on SSM.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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WELL, HERE'S A THOUGHT:When we're looking, in the not-too-distant future, for a word to replace marriage and that old-fashioned concept of forsaking all others, "mateship" might just be the answer ... "In Kipnis's characterization, the domestic captivity that is marriage is complete and relentless, with surveillance, repression and prohibition built into its very structure." The language of couples, observes Kipnis, is a catalogue of "strictures, commands and punishments so unending that you will begin to wonder why no one has yet invoked the Geneva Convention when it comes to couple relations." Indeed, traditional marriages characterized by enforced monogamy, obligatory intimacy and passive-aggressive tactics is being declared an affront to human rights ... some efforts are being made to shore up the creaky institution with better therapy for the inmates. But at the leading edge of the culture and already entering the mainstream, there's a trend, for better or for worse, to gut the institution of traditional marriage and to renovate coupledom � or mateship, if you prefer � from the ground up.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM MISSISSIPPI: "Another man stole his wife's heart, so Albert Edwin Holcombe Jr. sued. A jury says his broken heart is worth $175,000. Harry Stevens was ordered by a jury to pay $175,000 for breaking up a marriage."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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"The Long Island Coalition for Same-Sex Marriage debuted last night, promising to educate the public, lobby lawmakers and hold mass marriage ceremonies in the face of recent remarks made by President George W. Bush and the Vatican opposing gay marriage."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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NEW STUDY:A mathematician says he can predict with almost total accuracy which newly wed couples will enjoy a happy marriage -- using two lines of algebra. The experiment, conducted with the help of a psychologist, involved observing the couples during a 15 minute conversation when they were newly married, Murray said ... A couple's ability to communicate on subjects such as sex, child-rearing or money was measured using a scale that gave positive points for good signals, such as smiles and affectionate gestures, and negative points for bad signals, such as rolling of the eyes, mocking and coldness. "We used an accepted psychological scoring system to award them points, such as minus three for scorn and plus two for humour," Murray, the author of "Mathematics for Marriage", told the newspaper.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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MORE LILEKS:Perhaps I the only one who winced at this: �God has once again brought an Easter out of Good Friday.' said Rev. Gene Robinson after his election as the first openly gay bishop. Good heavens, man, why don�t you just do the full James Cameron: hop up on the cross and shout I�m King of the Jews!
This story has irritated me from the start, and it has nothing to do with Rev. Robinson�s sexual orientation. The guy left his wife and kids to go do the hokey-pokey with someone else: that�s what it�s all about, at least for me. Marriages founder for a variety of reasons, and ofttimes they�re valid reasons, sad and inescapable. But �I want to have sex with other people� is not a valid reason for depriving two little girls of a daddy who lives with them, gets up at night when they're sick, kisses them in the morning when they wake. There's a word for people who leave their children because they don't want to have sex with Mommy anymore: selfish. ... ... If he�d cast off his family to cavort with a woman from the choir, I�m not sure he�d be elevated to the level of moral avatar � but by some peculiar twist the fact that he left mom for a man insulates him from criticism. It�s as if he had to do it. To stay in the marriage would have been (crack of thunder, horses neighing) living a lie, and nowadays we�re told that�s the worst thing anyone can do. Better to bedevil other lives with the truth than inconvenience your own with a lie. Right? If others are harmed in the short run, eventually they will be happy because you�re happier. Right?
I don�t think it works that way with little children. I don�t think they understand why Dads leave � and so they make up their own reasons and spend years looking for evidence in other people.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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Thursday, August 07, 2003
MATERNAL FEMINISM (CONT.): In Australia, the debate continues on maternal feminism and maternal equity. PM John Howard has his say here. Angela Shanahan has her say here. The responses, we can safely predict, will be full-throated. It seems to me, from a distance, that down under they are debating this issue more intensely and carefully than we in the U.S. are.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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From the Associated Baptist Press, a piece on McManus-developed community marriage policies.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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NAME THAT SOURCE:Marriage is a very serious endeavor, not to be trifled with. Just ask any of the tens of millions of divorced parents who are tied together for life in a precarious, often combative attempt to raise their kids well in separate households. Surprise! It's Robert Scheer's column in The Nation, discussed by David below. One positive side to the same-sex marriage debate is that lefties like Scheer take the time to praise marriage for its contributions to "loyalty, sexual stability, shared financial responsibility and the more efficient rearing of children." "Efficient" seems to be an odd choice of words, but from The Nation, I'll take what I can get.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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NOBODY HERE BUT US BELIEVERS: In The Nation, Robert Sheer argues in essence that everyone with whom he disagrees on the SSM issue, starting with President Bush, is putting forward a "religious" notion, which is a political no-no for anyone who's read our Constitution, which separates church and state.
I see this argument all the time, and to me it just doesn't wash. What an interesting world it is whenever your own deepest personal values -- in the case of Robert Sheer, I'm guessing something like socialism, multiculturalism, and secularism -- can be proudly worn on your sleeve and put forward as the basis for all your political actions and commitments, whereas other people's deepest values -- if they happen in Robert Sheer's opinion to be "religious" -- basically disqualify those persons from participating in the public debate at all. How convenient for Robert Sheer!
The truth is, we all believe in something. We all act on the basis of our fundamental values. Neatly separating the world into those who have "faith" in something and those who do not is, to put it mildly, a lot harder than Robert Sheer appears to thinks it is. To me, he would be better off just debating this issue on the merits, instead of trying to decide who can legitimately express a viewpoint and who cannot.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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KOBE IS GUILTY: According to Star Parker, Kobe Bryant is already guilty of setting a bad example to black youth:Basketball's Charles Barkley once said he wasn't a role model. This is like the president of the United States saying he doesn't want press coverage. Star black athletes have no choice about being role models. The only choice they have is what type of models they choose to be.
On Wednesday, Kobe Bryant appeared in a Colorado court to face the rape charges against him. His innocence, or lack thereof, obviously has important personal consequences for the basketball superstar. But he already is a guilty man when it comes to the damage he has caused in the communities he influences the most. Our nation's black youth idolize Bryant, but the example he sets undermines the very values � family, marital fidelity, sexual responsibility � crucial for their futures. Despite an absurd comment on the sodomy-laws ruling and an overly political tone, she makes some solid points, the relevance of which extend beyond the African-American community.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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THE LATEST FROM MALAYSIA: For all of you who've been following intently the legal drama about divorce-by-text-message in Malaysia, the latest news seems to be that men may now be fined for attempting to divorce outside of an Islamic court.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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NOT NO-FAULT: The Seoul Family Court yesterday held a husband responsible for a divorce caused by a conflict between his wife and his mother. Married in 1994, the wife said the couple had divorced after seven years because her mother-in-law depended heavily on her son, stirring a fight between them. The court ruled that the fundamental problem in the relationship was the husband�s indifference. Instead of trying to resolve the conflict, he had several affairs and ignored his wife�s warnings, it said.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM DUBAI: The divorce rate in Dubai has become the lowest not only in the UAE but the whole of the Arab world, thanks to a new counselling service offered by the emirate's court service.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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The Man�s Guide to the Art of Divorce (Themis Press, 2003) teaches men "how to defend themselves in divorce court."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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COHABITATION:New research has found that cohabiting couples who get married are almost twice as likely to get divorced as those who do not live together first ... The researchers, from Penn State University in Pittsburgh, believe many unhappy couples simply get married rather than go through the emotional trauma of splitting up their shared possessions. Claire Dush, who led the study, said: "It can really come down to the couch in many cases. Couples who live together are far more likely to get married simply because it's the easier option. "Nobody wants the trauma of sorting out who owns what, and it appears a lot of people are happier to simply carry on with a dysfunctional relationship and get married rather than go through a break-up."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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The Rev Jerry Falwell announced Wednesday that he is putting aside everything to devote his time to passage of a constitutional ban on gay marriage.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Wednesday, August 06, 2003
A Division Bench of Calcutta High Court today held that a marriage in a temple by exchanging garlands and putting a vermilion mark on the forehead of a girl was not valid under the Hindu Marriage Act, 1954.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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An article announced on the cover of the current issue of O: The Oprah Magazine: "The wacky bliss of 2nd (or 3rd!) weddings."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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START YOUR ENGINES?: In D.C. yesterday I heard that political analysts are discovering the existence and declaring the electoral importance of a new group: "NASCAR Dads." You know, blue collar and lower middle class regular guys with kids. I'm told that in the U.S. more people attend stock car racing events than any other sport. You coulda fooled me, but I can see the 60-second ads already. Move over, Soccer Moms.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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James Lileks on same-sex marriage:Does gay marriage threaten heterosexual marriage? Of course! Who knows how many women woke last week to find notes on the kitchen table: "Dearest Wife, now that homosexual sodomy is legal in Texas, I have to go try it. Took the cell phone. Farewell."
No, if heterosexual marriage is threatened by anything, it's by heterosexuals. Famous heterosexuals in particular. We see them grinning from the covers of gossip mags, celebrating wedding No. 9 or dissolving marriage No. 14, or just having a hot fling with whatever good-gened, white-toothed cretin is the flavor of the season.
People don't get divorced because Demi did. That's not the point. But because the culture attaches no particular stigma to divorce or catting around, our pop-culture heroes don't even have to pretend anymore. Say what you will about gay marriage, it's nice to see someone taking the institution seriously.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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A NEW STUDY, AND AN IMPORTANT LESSON: An article by Mark Kleiman in Slate has important implications for the marriage movement. Researchers from the University of Pennsylvania recently looked at Chuck Colson's Prison Fellowship, an evangelical program for inmates, and found that its "graduates" had signficantly lower rates of recidivism than other inmates. Evidence of a successful program? That's what the White House, the Wall Street Journal, Tom DeLay, and others have proclaimed. The problem is, as Kleiman shows, the evidence actually indicates that the program did not work. Participants in the faith-based program actually did worse than the control group. So what gives? Kleiman explains:InnerChange started with 177 volunteer prisoners but only 75 of them "graduated." Graduation involved sticking with the program, not only in prison but after release. No one counted as a graduate, for example, unless he got a job. Naturally, the graduates did better than the control group. Anything that selects out from a group of ex-inmates those who hold jobs is going to look like a miracle cure, because getting a job is among the very best predictors of staying out of trouble. And inmates who stick with a demanding program of self-improvement through 16 months probably have more inner resources, and a stronger determination to turn their lives around, than the average inmate.
The InnerChange cheerleaders simply ignored the other 102 participants who dropped out, were kicked out, or got early parole and didn't finish. Naturally, the non-graduates did worse than the control group. If you select out the winners, you leave mostly losers.
Overall, the 177 entrants did a little bit worse than the controls. That result ought to discourage InnerChange's advocates, but it doesn't because they have just ignored the failure of the failures and focused on the success of the successes. ... The poor result of InnerChange doesn't mean that no faith-based prison program could work, but it does mean that this one hasn't, at least not yet. ... But that's why you do evaluations; they tell you things you didn't want to hear. If you're honest, you listen to them.
And if you're smart, you don't listen the political advocates of "faith-based" this and that when they say they're only asking us to support programs that have been "proven" to work. The implications of this for the marriage movement are clear. Nobody disagrees that rigorous outcomes-based evaluations of marital education programs are needed, and the Prison Fellowship flap should remind well-intentioned advocates to resist any temptations to spin the data.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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Is Barbara Ehrenreich the "Antichrist of North Carolina" and an "enemy of the American family"? She doesn't think so.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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Tuesday, August 05, 2003
ROGER GAY RESPONDS:I am responding to Tom Sylvester's comment on my article in Men's News Daily with a challenge to a public (internet) debate. The suggested topic is Fathers' Rights and the Marriage Movement. The style and process planned for such a debate is patterned after the round table discussions in The Atlantic Monthly. Four participants are suggested, so we should pick two more. Men's News Daily has offered free promotion and web site sponsorship. Apart from whatever group stereotypes are thrown around, I have a personal reputation for bluntness and occassional sarcasm (sort of a sense of humor). But then Tom - let's be honest. So do you!
posted by Tom Sylvester
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FROM MALAYSIA:KUALA TERENGGANU: PAS has blamed television stations for airing dramas, which it claims has created an unconducive family environment leading to marriage break-ups.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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Monday, August 04, 2003
NEW STUDY:Even though more than half of couples now do it, compared with only 10 percent 30 years ago, living together before marriage still is linked to higher rates of troubled unions, divorce and separation, Penn State researchers have found. The Penn State team compared data on 1425 people married between 1964 and 1980 when cohabitation was less common and between 1981 and 1997 when cohabitation was more common. They found that, in both groups, cohabiters reported less happiness and more marital conflict than noncohabiters. Also, in both groups, couples who lived together before marriage were more likely to divorce.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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From the columnist Leonard Pitts, Jr., an interesting guy:But it strikes me as intriguing, instructive and poignant that gay couples so determinedly seek what so many of us scorn, are so ready to take the risk many of us refuse, find such value in an institution we have essentially declared valueless. There's something oddly inspiring in their struggle to achieve the social sanction whose importance many of us long ago dismissed.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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Fox News overview on SSM debate, with some good links.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FATHERS� RIGHTS: At Men�s News Daily, Roger F. Gay writes �in defense of family and other fundamental rights��fundamental rights that, evidently, I oppose:In "Hounding Baskerville," Tom Sylvester demonstrates the deepest divisions between activist social conservatism and core American political values. � Like their far left counterparts, [activist social conservatives] abandon individual rights when embracing social causes. � Mr. Sylvester's article is a response to "Government as Family Therapist," by Stephen Baskerville. Dr. Baskerville is a political science professor and well-known fathers' rights advocate who called into question the efforts of activist social conservatives to strengthen fatherhood and preserve the family. Mr. Sylvester answered by relegating Dr. Baskerville to an unworthy social class and calling upon the spirits of bureaucrats, special interest confidants, and New York Times reporters to defend his own. First, though it�s fair to describe the healthy marriage initiative as �activist social conservatism,� I want to say that I don�t happen to be a conservative. Second, Baskerville does more than �call[] into question� healthy marriage initiatives; he argues that these programs will be part of the �dangerous cycle� of the family law patronage machine that destroys families by ripping fathers away from their children. Third, I�m not sure how I relegated Dr. Baskerville to �an unworthy social class,� but I don�t mind being accused of calling upon �special interest confidants,� because it sounds cool (though I don�t know what Mr. Gay is talking about there, either).
The bulk of Gay�s article asserts that legislatures and courts are trampling upon �family rights�:[An upcoming Supreme Court] case will determine whether the battle for family rights has been won or lost. Under question is whether family rights are constitutionally protected or merely political constructions to be modified at the whim of legislators. � �One of the specific objectives of fathers' rights advocacy is recognition of constitutional limits to state power that would constrain courts to ordering reasonable and appropriate child support amounts. The argument would be easily won on the basis of facts and logic. The battle however, must be fought against approximately $4 billion a year in federal funding that holds child support in a realm of public policy where individual rights do not exist. �There are two broad questions that stand out in the [court] decisions. The first is whether family rights are fundamental. That is, are family rights protected under the Constitution? ... Gay�s argument is tough to follow. It�s a bad sign when somebody writes, �The argument would easily be won on the basis of facts and logic,� but doesn�t lay out clearly the relevant facts and logic�or the opposing argument, for that matter. Gay refers to �family rights� throughout his piece without ever defining the term; one can only infer that it has to do with child support payments being, in his view, set too high.
Gay�s article reflects a problem with much of fathers� rights advocacy. Certainly there is room for debate about reforming the child support system, no-fault divorce, and so on. I might agree with a number of reforms that Gay advocates. But the constant-yet-unsupported assertions that �family rights� are disappearing, the bitter tone that results from feeling victimized by a government conspiracy�these are a couple of reasons why many articles on fathers� rights are seen as little more than fathers� rants.
posted by Tom Sylvester
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Sunday, August 03, 2003
FROM WYOMING: "In Wyoming, where gay marriage is not currently recognized, same-sex couples are tying the knot anyway. Rev. Dianna Cole, the owner of I Do, I Do Weddings, a wedding facility and bridal shop in Casper, said Thursday she has married six same-sex couples in the five years she has been open. Other ministers in Casper, though it is not known how many, offer marriage services to gay couples."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM LOUISIANA: "A bonco party and spaghetti dinner to raise money for the Marriage Encounter program is Saturday at 6:30 p.m. at St. Ann School, 4920 Loveland St., Metairie. The Archdiocese of New Orleans Family Life Apostolate sponsors Marriage Encounter, which is a weekend program designed for married couples to spend time sharing thoughts and feelings away from the distractions and tensions of everyday life. Wile the Marriage Encounter program is based on the Catholic faith, the program is open to couples of all faiths."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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UT STUDY: "There are many factors that can determine the success and longevity of any marriage. Almost 3,000 couples from across the country are being interviewed for a long-term study on married life. University of Texas sociology professor Debra Umberson plans to conduct in-depth interviews with Austin-area couples who have been married several years. The study aims to better understand the experiences that can change long-term marriages."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM THE KC STAR, ON THE BASIC ISSUE IN THE SSM DEBATE:Their challenge, they believe, is to deflect the religious arguments about gay marriage and instead emphasize the fairness issue of gaining legal benefits. Such benefits include insurance for partners, automatic inheritance rights, decision-making for an incapacitated spouse, hospital visitation rights, joint credit and property rights. I understand, from a pro SSM perspective, the tactical advantages of advancing this argument. But on the merits it's about as misleading as an argument can be. Most people who oppose or have doubts about SSM would have little or no objection to either civil unions or case-by-case legal changes that delivered these and other benefits to SS couples. But advocates for SSM are having none of it, because what they want is not a mess of pottage, but marriage, with all of its rich cultural meanings. That's what the fight is about. The pros want it, in the name of equal human dignity. The antis don't want them to get it, in the name of protecting the current meaning and definition of the institution.
The stakes are quite high. That's why everyone is so agitated and troubled. It does no one any favor to blather on about how this is all about practical matters such as joint credit and property rights. From my point of view, I wish that it were, but it isn't.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM AUSTRALIA: My friend Kevin Andrews, the federal minister of ageing, has called for a national inquiry into the state of marriage in Australia. Kevin and his wife Margaret -- who edits Threshold, a magazine on marrige education -- are great people and I hope his idea gets a hearing.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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In today's NYTs, my colleague Elizabeth Marquardt has a letter reponding to Michael Tanner's op-ed ("Wedded to Poverty") attacking the Administration's marriage initiative.
posted by David Blankenhorn
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FROM THE M0UTHS OF BABES: My six year old daughter told me about a new toy, Pregnant Barbie. Where's Pregnant Barbie's husband, I asked? She said: "Oh, the husband is bought separately."
posted by David Blankenhorn
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